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        Experts share insight on supply chain-related industrial real estate development

        July 7, 2023 By Michael Ares

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        Erik Sjolseth and industry panel

        Harbert College of Business Instructor Erik Sjolseth (right) moderated the panel discussion.


        A panel of industry experts at the CityBuilders symposium, The Future of Industrial Development and Logistics, explored the uptick in industrial real estate development tied to unprecedented shifts in global supply chains that occurred as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. CityBuilders is an annual initiative of Auburn University’s Institute for Real Estate Development and number one-ranked Master of Real Estate Development (MRED) program.

        Moderated by Erik Sjolseth, instructor in the Department of Supply Chain Management at Auburn’s Harbert College of Business, The Current Landscape and Outlook for Logistics and E-Commerce session featured five leading real estate developers and logistics experts sharing their experience and insight with the 180 professionals in attendance. The panelists were presented with a number of issues to discuss, and a sampling of their remarks is presented here.

        SjolsethWhat changes in design and services do you think are needed for the evolving industrial development market when it comes to the transportation sector?

        Mike LaFerle, Vice President — Real Estate/Construction, The Home Depot

        Mike LaFerle

        Mike LaFerle

        From our perspective, it is all about the people who work in our facilities—we have about 350 million square feet under roof, with 100 million of that industrial. Air conditioning, transportation and on-site amenities such as animal care, for example, are important to both current team members and potential employees when they decide where to work—or continue working. I can't tell you how many of our people have to leave during their breaks to go home and feed or walk a dog or whatever it may be. Public transportation is also a bigger challenge these days—how can we make it easier to get people to large industrial campuses that may not be in an urban area?

         

         

        Stacy Watson, Director, Economic & Industrial Development, Georgia Ports Authority

        Stacy Watson

        Stacy Watson

        What keeps us up at night is the workforce as well. We need more people, more folks in the labor pool. We have 100 million square feet of industrial space within 30 miles of our terminal—we've been the fastest growing U.S. port for the last 15 years in terms of containers, and we need people to move, store and load or unload those containers. There’s a lot of competition for these folks—they have options as to who they work for and where they’re willing to go. Their needs matter a lot.

         

         

         

        Scott King, LEED Green Associate, Senior Vice President, Industrial & Commissioning Project & Development Services, JLL

        Scott King

        Scott King

        The majority of what we’re dealing with is which employee amenities need to be included in the design of the environments we build or redevelop. These days we're going into a lot of existing facilities and upgrading bathrooms, locker rooms, break areas and trying to figure out how we make it better for workers, make it different from the companies and operations they compete with for employees. Companies need more than buildings—they need workers. It’s an incredibly competitive labor market out there.

         

         

        SjolsethHow does a company or organization decide on the optimal location for a new distribution center or warehouse?

        Adam Langston, Chief Commercial Officer of Passport Shipping

        Adam Langston

        Adam Langston

        We typically talk about the first mile and the last mile, but since the pandemic, when people started running out of space and needed more flexibility, there's been an emerging type of ecosystem around what we'll call the ‘middle mile.’ We need to develop innovative solutions as to where these types of facilities are built and what they need to contain. For example, sometimes deliveries and pickups happen in personal vehicles—how do we deal with that? How does the building itself need to be designed to accommodate these changes?

         

         

        Denson White

        Denson White

        Denson White, Chief Commercial Officer at APM Terminals

        In a place like Los Angeles, we are looking at re-purposing existing facilities vs. building new ones. We used to have million square foot warehouses that were full of goods from a single company. Now those are getting chopped up into smaller units. We're having to go in and totally revamp these huge buildings that are out there because the market has changed. We're looking at remodels, looking at revamps to add all the amenities today’s workers are expecting. This employee-focused factor totally changes the mindset—it could mean the difference between getting the labor the client needs in order to compete or their competition getting them.

         

        Scott King

        Scott King

        The availability of land is becoming a challenge, especially when coupled with the need for infrastructure, power, water, and community engagement. It's a big country, and it looks like there's a lot of land, but once you start adding up the requirements—a rail stop, higher capacity roads, sustainable power sources, etc.—the number of viable sites diminishes quite a bit. And the price of that land is going up.

         

         

         

        Sjolseth:  What are the biggest challenges facing your supply chain-related real estate strategy?

        Stacy Watson

        Stacy Watson

        Reducing the “dwell time” of a container box—how long it sits at the port after it comes ashore or before it is loaded—is our main focus. The inland port concept can help. A port is built to move freight, not to store freight, even though over the last couple of years we've been making a lot of money storing freight—but that’s not what we're designed to do. The inland port concept actually gives us the ability to move freight through our terminal faster, basically extending our terminal gates closer to the population, closer to where there's demand for that freight.

         

         

        Mike LaFerle

        Mike LaFerle

        For Home Depot, the challenges are two-fold. First, ensuring the availability of the products our customers need. Second, making sure we have those products close enough to the customer that they can get them in a timely fashion, be it same day or next day. We have what we call upstream and downstream facilities. The upstream facilities are those where we receive and store goods to be distributed—we have four and a half million square feet in Savannah and another 12 million square feet here in Atlanta. We also have downstream facilities closer to the customer, where the population density demands it.

         

         

        Adam Langston

        Adam Langston

        I’ll add the exporter perspective on this. About 70% of our costs are in the first mile and the last mile of a shipment. About 20% of that is an international air freight component. Only about four percent of our costs are in the rent we pay for the real estate we occupy. So it’s really all about driving first mile and last mile efficiency for us.

         

         

         

        Denson White

        Denson White

        We have too much in our supply chain right now, and as a result, we're spending more on warehousing. For example, we are working with an auto manufacturer—negotiating how to store about 1,000 containers—and they are telling us that those containers might sit there until the end of the year. That’s what we’re dealing with now—how to accommodate the ever-changing needs of our customers.